Posts tagged: white mythology
happy international women’s day
Why isn’t there a white/Caucasian female? We’re supposed to be celebrating the endless and powerful spectrum of women all over the world.
Because not only do women of colour face oppression by men on a daily basis, they also face oppression by white people on a daily basis White women are very well represented in comparison to women of colour - they’ve had numerous TV shows that are white feminist-centric - eg Girls, Sex and the City and also movies like Mean Girls. A celebration of solely women of colour is necessary in order to empower us and bring us at least to the same status of white women.
Women of colour are not represented very well in white media, and are told to get their own shows but when they do get their own shows they’re told “wow, an all coloured show? isn’t that kinda racist???” In fact, white people make about only 30% of the world, meaning white women are 15% of the world’s population.
Basically what I’m trying to get at is if the white population represented women of colour better then we wouldn’t need a separate celebration of our achievements. But they don’t, so we do. It’s like that post about Mario Kart - you don’t get the blue shell if you’re already in first place. I’m sorry if this didn’t make sense, it’s 1:30 in the morning.
bless you for replying to this is a manner much better than i could have done.
to put it bluntly i’ve seen 12 different photosets celebrating international women’s day, this is the only one that doesn’t have a white woman on it, 9 of the others didn’t have a single non-white woman on them, 2 were mixed,
when 2/3rds of women are non-white and they only appeared on 1/3rd of these photosets, and only got 1/12th to themselves, shit is fucked up, that is not proportional representation
In addition, please do not refer to white women as Caucasian, as there are actually Caucasian people from Caucasus.
When you, as a white person, say, “But why are there no white people here? Why is this only POC?” you sound like Dudley Dursley asking why Harry gets one present all to himself at Christmas when Dudley has thirty-five of them stacked up behind him that he will never, ever share. That’s how childish you sound
Except, of course, for the part where some of the white people “presents” are and have been ownership of POC and murdering them and getting off scot free and structurally benefiting at their expense and so on and soforth. We white people have so fucking much, and we have done so fucking much horrible shit to people who aren’t white, and you want to complain because they get a fucking gifset all to themselves? Jesus fucking Christ, how petty can you be? (Not to mention racist.)
Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old. As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn’t do anything.
“Are you feeling all right?” I asked her.
“I feel all sleepy, ” she said.
In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead.
The measles had turned into a terrible thing called measles encephalitis and there was nothing the doctors could do to save her.
That was twenty-four years ago in 1962, but even now, if a child with measles happens to develop the same deadly reaction from measles as Olivia did, there would still be nothing the doctors could do to help her.
On the other hand, there is today something that parents can do to make sure that this sort of tragedy does not happen to a child of theirs. They can insist that their child is immunised against measles. I was unable to do that for Olivia in 1962 because in those days a reliable measles vaccine had not been discovered. Today a good and safe vaccine is available to every family and all you have to do is to ask your doctor to administer it.
It is not yet generally accepted that measles can be a dangerous illness.
Believe me, it is. In my opinion parents who now refuse to have their children immunised are putting the lives of those children at risk.
In America, where measles immunisation is compulsory, measles like smallpox, has been virtually wiped out.
Here in Britain, because so many parents refuse, either out of obstinacy or ignorance or fear, to allow their children to be immunised, we still have a hundred thousand cases of measles every year.
Out of those, more than 10,000 will suffer side effects of one kind or another.
At least 10,000 will develop ear or chest infections.
About 20 will die.
LET THAT SINK IN.
Every year around 20 children will die in Britain from measles.
So what about the risks that your children will run from being immunised?
They are almost non-existent. Listen to this. In a district of around 300,000 people, there will be only one child every 250 years who will develop serious side effects from measles immunisation! That is about a million to one chance. I should think there would be more chance of your child choking to death on a chocolate bar than of becoming seriously ill from a measles immunisation.
So what on earth are you worrying about?
It really is almost a crime to allow your child to go unimmunised.
ive been on tumblr too long
watching the matrix today
agent smith going off on his humanity is a disease line
looking at morpheus
and i can just hear him
shaking his head all ‘this is some white nonsense’
16 measles cases reported in the Bronx and Manhattan
NBC New York: Health officials are investigating a measles outbreak in Manhattan and the Bronx after nine children and seven adults tested positive for the highly contagious virus.
Four of the affected children were too young to have been vaccinated; three who had been vaccinated were 13 to 15 months old and two others had not been vaccinated by parental choice, the Health Department said.
Photo: Press Association Images via NBCNewYork.com
stop taking your medical advice from celebrities.
"If white people are so privileged why is there a Black Entertainment Network and no White Entertainment Network?"
"Men don’t have privilege, there are women’s only gyms!"
"Why isn’t there a campus centre for straight/cis people!?"
SAME REASONS WHY IN MARIO KART YOU DON’T GET BLUE SHELLS OR LIGHTNING BOLTS WHEN YOU’RE ALREADY IN FIRST PLACE, ASSBAG.
This is honestly the best explanation I have ever seen.
Hahahahahaaa! Wonderful :)
But race couldn’t possibly be a factor.
Alright, help me process this.
I submitted some of the Arizona materials to you and asked for a broader perspective on them, your initial response was fairly hostile but I decided to chalk that up to miscommunication and thanked you for the other information you provided, as far as I was concerned, that was the end of it.
Then later I find you’re claiming that I’m somehow okay with what’s going on in Arizona, I message you to understand why you’re misrepresenting me to other people…
And that brings us to the above response. So let’s take this point by point now.
I agree there’s a false sense of middleground, no issue there.
As for the tea party thing, I chalked that up to miscommunication, moreover, I don’t understand how the quote you provided, which was of someone denying these horrors ever happened, is somehow related to my discomfort over the notion that modern people should need to atone for something their ancestors did decades ago.
Now, this bit with “brown children” and my grandmother is confusing since I’m hispanic, and you know that. Nor did I ever express a fear of anything of the sort, I don’t understand how I’m fear-mongering! Or what fox news or obama have to do with anything.
I never said I was persecuted, I never said we shouldn’t have Ethnic studies, I don’t understand where this is coming from.
If that’s all your intent was, great, we can put this to bed right here. But I thought you were misrepresenting my stance on the issue and I wanted to make sure we were clear, which judging by the earlier comments in your response I don’t think we were.
Alright, I empathize with your discomfort and your efforts, but I’m not entirely certain what it is you think I’ve done to warrant this kind of hostility, and I’m not exactly sure what I need to re-analyze given that I agree with you for the most part?
When I first messaged you I expected either a “No most of the study material is pretty standard stuff, there’s nothing really radical here I think you might just feel uncomfortable because of X and if you take into account Y context you’ll see it in a new light”
Instead I got, what I feel like is a “See People! Look at the false moderate who thinks ethnic studies should be banned and really agrees with the teaparty! Look at all these terrible things happening that he condones!”
And I don’t really know where that’s come from.
…but I’d just like to say that while I think the intent of the content is admirable, some of the actual material is more divisive than educational. Advocating Thanksgiving become a national day of atonement strikes me as a tad extreme, a lot of it doesn’t appear academic…it reminds me more of angry bloggers on tumblr than a school curriculum.
[…] talking abut how American hangmen got drunk on eggnog after executing Mexican and Indian Leaders… I don’t know, what good does that do?
^This is me QUOTING YOU.
I don’t know how many times I have to repeat myself that THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO BANNED IT SAID.
The authors of the ban, some of whom now propose to extend it to state colleges, admit they never attended a class in the offending Tucson program. They simply didn’t like the idea of teachers telling students the apparently subversive facts that nonwhite people have at times suffered at the hands of white people, or that people of every color have at times acted with color-conscious solidarity. This is a shameless kind of censorship, oozing anti-Hispanic animus.Some more:
Uh. If you were going to be angry at my reply, your anger seems a bit late to the party. Considering you weren’t angry about my original response to you, but you WERE angry with this response of mine to someone else?
I didn’t “make” you the false moderate. I pointed out, in the ORIGINAL RESPONSE, that because our educational policy has become so fraught with political implications and bandied about like a political gambit, this has created a FALSE sense of what is the “middle ground”.
Lastly, did you notice how flagrantly I have been ignoring your rhetoric about **”They” want to make Thanksgiving a National Day of Fasting and/or Atonement????** I already pointed out to you that your lines are indistinguishable from that of the extreme right-wing fringe group the Tea Party, and yet you didn’t seem in much of a tither over that.
Who ARE these “They” who are trying to take away your national holidays? If you want to believe that brown children who learn about their own history are going to bum-rush your Thanksgiving dinner, pull your Turkey off the table and slap your grandma with it, that is your business. This is the same kind of fearmongering, dog-whistle fake threats to Real Murricans meant to cause a knee-jerk emotional reaction in people who are ignorant that Fox News loves to serve as dessert with their “Obama is a Secret Muslim!” entree.
It’s re-framing a banned class as if it’s somehow powerful enough to “persecute” the entirety of America’s white population by making them feel bad about genocide once a year.
I’m not the biggest fan of The Daily Show, but they did sum that kind of logic up pretty nicely as “The official slogan of oppression”:
You’re not being persecuted by having it pointed out to you that your “opinion” isn’t moderate.
And finally, all I did in this reblog was point out to that person WHY and HOW not actively fighting racist systems uphold them, in response to a different question than the one YOU asked.
If you want to play “I’m an innocent babe in the woods how can u speak so sharply to me” let me point out that you’ve already said you’re a History major, and you don’t know a lot of things, so why do you think you are entitled to feel comfortable when you’re asking questions about genocide?
Do you think **I** feel comfortable talking about how white colonizers hung my ancestors and got drunk to celebrate it?
It really took you a long time to get upset about this, and I wonder why FEELING SLIGHTLY MISUNDERSTOOD AND NOT BEING CODDLED AS A HISTORY NEWB MAKES YOU ANGRIER THAN KNOWING MILLIONS OF KIDS IN TEXAS, ARIZONA, AND ACROSS THE U.S. BEING LEGALLY BARRED FROM LEARNING THEIR INDIGENOUS LANGUAGES, THEIR PEOPLE’S HISTORY, AND SCREWED OUT OF A CHANCE FOR SUCCESS?
Maybe you should take some of your own advice:
Since I started this blog, I have very rarely felt comfortable. I think a lot about how my words and statements affects others, and how they can be used against people who are considerably MORE disenfranchised than I am. And even with that, I still make HUGE mistakes, I have issued countless corrections, have definitely kept talking when I SHOULD have shut my mouth immediately, and have generally messed up very publicly and to much criticism.
And the worst part is that too much of the time, when I mess up, other people suffer for it far more than I EVER will.
If your desire to improve yourself is sincere, maybe think less about five minutes of personal embarrassment and more about how your words and deeds function in society, and who is affected the most by what you say and do. If you want to learn and teach History, thinking about how we function in the context of learning history, and what kind of assumptions, biases, and personal beliefs and experiences YOU are bringing to the table.
They claim to have instituted the ban to remove grievance-focused identity politics from the classroom and to put the focus on the individual.
They banned it because they claimed it was divisive, and makes white people feel bad, and/or foments resentment against white people. And you’re like, and I quote, “some of the actual material is more divisive than educational.”
The word “divisive” is the go-to dog whistle for the Tea Party every. single. time. race. is mentioned. Look:
"Using the divisive language of the past to unfairly accuse the Tea Party”
Fighting racism? Pointing OUT racism? Teaching a class about racism? You’re being “divisive”. You’re somehow fomenting resentment against white people by teaching history from a non-whitewashed perspective. As if a bunch of High School kids are going to read a Sherman Alexie book and start a race war against white people. I am informing you that the language you are using to describe this banned program is not only the same as that used by the people who banned it, but is also used by racists trying to silence their critics, and that maybe you should think about that.
I’m telling you that WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE AND PRIORITIZE IS YOUR CHOICE AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
The thing you have a problem with is you think I was quoting you here, when I was going “This is an example of what people who perpetuate injustice say”, because that was the question someone ELSE asked me.
Once again, you are centering how you feel attacked, and taking the focus away from what you have actually said.
But please, let’s talk some more about why you feel victimized by having a confrontational conversation. You know. Rather than how the actual words that have come out of your mouth reflect some disturbing views on how learning a counternarrative of history is “divisive”, or why it sounds like “an angry tumblr blog”.
Hi yeah, I live in AZ all my life and have studied this as part of my studies. I know the people who are heavily affected by this.
AZ has literally said, word for word, that anything promoting ethnic solidarity is illegal. This is the same state where bilingual education is illegal, unless you are some white kid learning Spanish. It’s right there, underline, in the words, ethnic solidarity is not allowed. I can get arrested, in the state I was born and live in, if I teach that Asian Americans and Black Americans worked together in the Civil Rights Movement. I can be arrested for talking about the solidarity act between Filipino and Latino farm workers during the era before Civil Rights movement.
Wanna know what I CAN’T be arrested for? Spouting Eugenics theory. I can teach about Colombus, but heaven forbid I teach about Yuri Kochiyama, after all, she worked ethnically with black Americans.
Do you understand that I can be jailed for teaching the TRUTH? Do you understand that I CAN NOT TEACH IN MY HOME STATE because I want to see my own history that was denied to me? Do you realize that Latino children in AZ are harassed, policed, deported, killed, daily and on top of that are denied the language that they speak to their parents with? Do you realize I have to CHOOSE between teaching and staying home with family? Do white people ever have to choose between their history and their family? Ever? Ever in this country’s history, ever?
Do you realize that WHITE PEOPLE, and WHITE PEOPLE ONLY, there ain’t any black or Asian person in AZ legislator, just guy people- are the reasons my friends can barely speak to their grandparents?
Do you realize what fuckery white people have done in this state?
If I wanna teach, I. can’t. teach. in. the state. of. my. birth.
If you ask me, we’re being fucking nice.
Do you see a problem with this?
Thank you for sharing your story.
The dismantling of bilingual education in Arizona, and California (my home state), was more or less the doing of one man with a lot of money and a lot of xenophobic views. Ron Unz, some California millionaire, made it his mission to eliminate bilingual education in the United States, and it basically worked. That happened quite a while ago, around 2000. That’s the other jaw of the veritable bear trap these kids are in: they’re forced into English-only classes to sink or swim.
Notice this doesn’t apply to kids who know English but want to learn a different language-only kids for whom English is their second language, and/or are trying to learn.
All we can do is share and curate this knowledge, to try and hold it safe until it can be freely celebrated, learned, and explored again. Because we are being erased from history. The achievements of our grandparents are being erased along with the terrible wrongs done to them.
And this is all for the purpose of creating a generation of kids with no knowledge of their History, no understanding of how they are treated now has everything to do with centuries of oppression and suppression. They won’t learn how the massive libraries of their ancestors were burned by colonizers, they won’t know that when U.S. senatorial candidates use racial slurs to openly advocate their extrajudicial murder, that that comes from a long history of bloodshed and terror.
It makes me sick to think about.
I cannot overstate how real and dangerous this is. It is not just some academic issue that affects some state you don’t live in — if affects every person of color, all the time, in all so many unfathomable ways.
I was NEVER taught about racism growing up. It was mentioned, briefly, as something that happened in the past, something that had ended with slavery. The civil rights movement was glossed over with the most positive spin possible, like some historic inevitability that involved no pain, or suffering, or sacrifice. Something that isn’t still being fought for. I was taught that racism is over, and because it came from a Respectable Institution, I believed it.
I’m bi-racial, black and white. Because of this omission, I never understood why I was treated differently in school. I never understood why I was never good enough for my peers, why people looked at me askance or stopped talking when I approached them, why I was left out of so many things. Until a year or two ago, I literally didn’t have a word for the sensation I have felt since I was aware of the outside world: Othering. I didn’t understand why adults would come to me, all of four years old, and ask if I was adopted. Constantly, every time my mother and I would go out, until I would start crying when a white woman approached me.
I wasn’t allowed to understand my blackness, and I certainly wasn’t allowed to be proud of it. In a racist society, bi-racial people are forced to embrace the “better” culture. I never learned about my father’s struggles in the civil rights movement, or my ancestor who ran away from his enslaver and made a life for himself and his descendants. I learned to be ashamed of my aunts and uncles and nieces, of my own dark skin, of my hair, which wouldn’t lie straight no matter what I tried.
When people of color are only depicted in subservient roles, it sends a message that we’re not good enough. Our bodies aren’t good enough, our cultures, our knowledge. It forces a huge number of people into a morass of cultural self-hatred for the benefit of a privileged few.
Pay attention to this. It’s real, and it’s happening right now. And ignoring it is only reinforcing its legitimacy.
Exactly-these aren’t just “ideas”. That’s what really frustrates me, that for too many people, including a lot of people who read this blog, it’s as if these are concepts that can be bandied around, talked about, but ultimately ignored if it gets ‘uncomfortable’.
In the U.S., only white people get to choose whether or not to discuss or think about racism. And if this catering to the possible discomfort of white students keeps being legislated and coded into the education system, it’s stealing the language from students of color for them to describe their very real, everyday experiences.
Reducing people’s lives to “causes” or “issues” is dehumanizing, and distances it from the concrete realm of people interacting with each other. Thank you so much for sharing your story, and your history.
And, in case you thought this was somehow isolated to Arizona or Texas: the public school I attend is not only consistently ranked one of the best in my state and country it is literally award winning and my 11th grade history teacher skipped over the entire civil rights movement in favour of more studying time for our final exam, which we took before the state standardized test. We were left with almost two weeks of free time at the end of the school year, and you know what we did? We watched fucking Top Gun. We watched Top Gun in my history class, despite having completely skipped the civil rights unit, because it was “historically relevant to the Reagan administration”. And believe me, I pestered him about it. I wouldn’t shut up about it. When he said he didn’t want to bore everyone with lectures after tests were done, I suggested we watch a Civil Rights documentary. When he said he wanted us to be able to watch a fictional movie, I produced a fucking list of fiction movies about the Civil Rights movement. And yet we did not even come close to touching it. He had literally no reason to exclude the Civil Rights movement other than he didn’t want to teach it.
And, I repeat: this is in one of the best public schools in the country.
Yeah. That’s how this happens in practice. It’s “interesting” how whenever corners are cut, these corners always seem to be those that affect or have to do with people who are historically disenfranchised.
If Jennifer Lawrence wins the Oscar, it’s not because she’s Jennifer Lawrence. It’s because the Academy saw something in her performance in American Hustle that made them think she should win. Race isn’t a deciding factor or age or how…
Lol rewarding white mediocrity since 1929
i don’t think breast size should be a deciding factor either but if j-lawr wins, that’s why.
When asked about the criticism, Cyrus simply says, “I don’t give a shit. I’m not Disney, where they have, like, an Asian girl, a black girl, and a white girl, to be politically correct, and, like, everyone has bright-colored T-shirts. You know, it’s like, I’m not making any kind of statement. Anyone that hates on you is always below you, because they’re just jealous of what you have.”
- Miley Cyrus for W magazine by Ronan Farrow
this is a really embarassing interview. and that is, frankly, being super generous.
My experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my “Blackness” than ever before. I have found that at Princeton no matter how liberal and open-minded some of my White professors and classmates try to be toward me, I sometimes feel like a visitor on campus; as if I really don’t belong. Regardless of the circumstances underwhich I interact with Whites at Princeton, it often seems as if, to them, I will always be Black first and a student second.
These experiences have made it apparent to me that the path I have chosen to follow by attending Princeton will likely lead to my further integration and/or assimilation into a White cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant. This realization has presently made my goals to actively utilize my resources to benefit the Black community more desirable. [x]
excerpt from "Princeton-educated Blacks and the Black Community,”
A thesis presented to Princeton University by Michelle LaVaughn Robinson (Michelle Obama)
You all have no clue how much I cherish this lady.
boy howdy, who’d thunk these types of conversations didn’t just spontaneously start happening on tumblr four years ago and that black people have been attempting to navigate the waters of whiteness for decades and it has nothing to do with being a social justice warrior?
who woulda thought that
Black Cowboys from the late 1800’s. It has been estimated that between 1/6 and 1/3 of all emigrants to the west were African American or of mixed race.
I’m in my third year of art school for communication design in Portland. Next year is my thesis and I’ve been preparing myself for it since I heard of it. I want to brand racism for it, but not in a commercial sense: I want to categorize and concretize the feelings of pain, ache, hurt, and all that gnarl that comes up when we’ve been racially aggressed and put them into a visual language that instantly communicated how the person is hurt and why what you said was racist. I want to make an ad campaign that serves as a call to arms to PoC to call that shit out loudly when they feel it and, at the same time, spark the initial questions within white folks that begins their unpacking. It’s still a work in progress and no where near it’s final form.
So for our third year, we’ll be doing a sort of thesis trial run where this semester’s largest project is a tiny version of our senior thesis. It being a persuasion project, I chose to persuade white people to see the underlying power dynamics that make for such a perfect breeding ground for racism.
We’re in the initial research phase of the project and I felt more than prepared. When it came to my turn, I spoke for all of 3 minutes out of the 8 i had before the white people in my classroom took over. In the space of five minutes, I heard everything: 1. there aren’t any PoC in Portland, so how can white people be expected to know how to act, 2. PoC need to grow up and 3. Not all white people are sacks of shit…
I’d given up on the discussion at this third point, having had my points of how derailment works scoffed at. I turned my attention to my notebook and my doodling.
Honestly, i didn’t even realize I’d said anything out loud till I started hearing the screaming. I looked up to tomato-red faces all around me with arms thrown in the air and stern glares. “No, really, Cesar, that was so racist of you. That was really, really racist.” they hollered at me all around me.
It was then that it occurred to me that my classmates might’ve heard my mumbled answer to point #3: “Yes they are.”
The screaming didn’t stop for a solid minute. I reminded myself that my white teacher wasn’t going to stand up for me and never has.
I took a half hour break after that to go vacantly click around the internet as I broke myself down for even having attempted anything like this.
In speaking about it to my novia, I teared up when she responded with “They’re hurt that you told them the truth. You ARE strong enough for this thesis, they’re just not strong enough for the truth. And you have always, always been strong enough for the truth.”
"Besides" she went on, "they’re the ones that have been sitting in their own filth for centuries before PoC came along and showed them fucking soap. And even then, they probably just killed the PoC that showed them soap and then made soap from their fat cus that’s just how whitey rolls."
so either Portland is so ‘progressive’ that racism here is impossible, or racism here is bc there aren’t enough PoC, or it’s just that PoC are “too sensitive”, or “WE’RE NOT ALL LIKE THAT”
anything to avoid taking responsibility for their own actions.
white people, this is why nobody trusts you
the only real racism is reverse racism, i guess
#keep portland white
Gary B. Nash from Red, White and Black; The Peoples of Early North America.. (a book recommended to me by Toni Morrison herself hehe when I asked her about the sources she used to write A Mercy)