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BBC News - Tourist ‘upset’ at Buddha tattoo row

A British tourist is “shocked and upset” after being deported from Sri Lanka for displaying a Buddha tattoo on his arm, he says.
Antony Ratcliffe, 42, from Nottingham, was turned back at Colombo’s main airport on Friday for allegedly showing a lack of respect for Buddhism.
The authorities are tough on perceived insults to Buddhism - the religion of the island’s majority ethnic Sinhalese.
But Mr Ratcliffe says the “inoffensive” body art was meant as a tribute.
[…]
“They took my passport and held me there for an hour and a half. All the time they were bringing people in to look at my arm, and they were shaking their heads.
“I was explaining my case, pleading basically, and the chief officer just told me to ‘shut up, shut up’ and he refused to talk to me.”
“I like the artwork in tattoos obviously and, due to my belief in Buddhist philosophy which I have followed for many years, I thought a quality tattoo of the Buddha was rather apt.
“It wasn’t something I took lightly or did on the spur of the moment.”
Eventually, Mr Ratcliffe was allowed to continue his journey to Kuala Lumpur, but faced further questioning when he landed.
“The whole experience has been a shock - it has been upsetting and a waste of my time. I’m not taking it further, but when I saw they had accused me of speaking disrespectfully about Buddhism, I had to put my side of the story”, he said.

‘i mean, i still don’t really give a shit whether or not they were offended by my imperialist tattoo, i just can’t decide if i’m more insulted that they wouldn’t let me into their country to ‘appreciate’ the rest of their heritage, or that they think they can tell me what i don’t know about buddhism’.
fucks sake, man.  #whitegirlsinheaddresses

what’s this i hear?
a country of color not taking any shit from a white person who disrespects their cultural and religious heritage?
cue that gif of oprah going “you mad?!” 

fuck your white bullshit

Yes Sri Lanka!

Yessssss I love it

Did you guys read the article?
There are white Buddhists (shocking, I know). He got it in another Buddhist nation. Like every tattoo, there was a story behind it, and his was to tribute to a Buddha.
It’s pretty telling alone that he didn’t get Laughing Buddha, the one most used for parodies and most widely known in white cultures.
But hey, maybe he’s just disrespecting an entire culture.

I fucking hate this. Not everything I do (as a white girl born in the USA or European decent) is disrespecting your culture. Asking you to explain things or spell your name is not stupidity or ignorance - it’s a genuine curiosity about who you are and where you come from. If I decide to tattoo a religious symbol of your culture or dress in clothes inspired by your culture, I’m not ‘appropriating’ your culture for ‘white girl’ purposes. Maybe I believe in the message behind them. Maybe I just think they’re pretty. You can wear jeans and printed tees, why can’t I wear a sari? If I respect and connect spiritually with Japanese traditional wedding practices, why can’t I use them? Stop assuming that because I’m a privileged white girl, I don’t respect your culture and beliefs. THAT belief makes YOU ignorant. 

Bitch did you not read the fuckin story? When people from the culture say, DON’T DO THAT. THAT IS INSULTING TO MY CULTURE, YOU ARE IN FACT DOING SOMETHING INSULTING TO THE CULTURE…you are not the fucking authority on what is and isn’t insulting to a culture that isn’t yours..and if you’re a decent human being, if you do something painful to someone and they tell you to stop, THEN FUCKING STOP…jesus h christ on a motherfuckin biscuit…what is WRONG with white people?!?!

He totally got that tattoo done after Buddhists told him not to. Definitely. That’s why he got it done in Burma, where the tattoo artist was probably Buddhist himself (as around 90% of the population there is, in fact, Buddhist, from what I can gather). Without knowing the exact story of his tattoo and him, we CANNOT assume that he continued to do something that they asked him not to and told him was disrespectful. If the tattoo artist did not think that it was a mistreatment of the image of the Buddha, I’m gonna go ahead and say that it was probably safe (seeing how, if he had done it and it HAD been a mistreatment, he would have gone to prison, and no one wants to live that far on the edge.). Did YOU not read the story? I never claimed to be any authority. I claimed to be judged prematurely based on my alabaster skin and passport. What is insulting to ME is that everyone else is allowed to appropriate western culture, but the second westerners do it, cultural appropriation is the devil. In a nutshell, lets not judge people without having a discussion with them first, okay? I mean honestly, completely honestly, I think this comes down to a very philosophical question about respect and majority and blanket statements and there is a lot of reasonable debate to be had, and I would have this cultural appropriate debate with you, I really would, but you don’t seem like you’re someone that reason would effect. At all. You seem kind of like a ragey social justice freak. You’ve completely missed my point and responded irrationally, devolving essentially into childlike name-calling and you seem unwilling to have a discussion about this, instead calling me an entitled white girl and ignoring my opinion.

I’m real tired of white- excuse me- *alabaster* people…calling me a “social justice freak” when they actually just mean scary Black lady…..and imma really need some concrete examples of when and how the appropriation of “western culture” has caused an *ALABASTER* person some real actual physical, mental, or spiritual harm…like when did someone eating velveeta and wearing blue jeans cause cultural exclusion and repression ever? 
Also, FUCK YOU I CAN BE AS RAGEY AS I WANT ESPECIALLY WHEN I SEE YET ANOTHER IGNORANT ASSHOLE DISRESPECT POC, DON’T INVALIDATE MY ANGER….

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Just because western culture has imposed spiritual and cultural oppression in the past, does not mean every white person is out to cause everyone other than them harm. We don’t go and scream at German people about previous being a nazi regime (or at least we shouldn’t) because the people today are not the people back then.
That being said, I agree that we don’t know who this guy is or what his reason for getting the tattoo was. I ALSO agree that Sri Lanka has all the right to get upset about what they think is culturally offensive…however, I can’t ignore the fact that I feel it also has a lot to do with a white man, in Sri Lanka, with an image of Buddha on his arm. Here in Asia it’s not exactly commonplace to see a white Buddhist…only cause there aren’t a lot of white people anyway. There are, also, ignorant white people who don’t know jack about Asian culture and do stupid stuff like wear shirts that have Chinese proverbs or images of Buddha without appreciating it…HOWEVER, I have to say there is just as much cultural ignorance with western culture in Asia as there is ignorance about Asian culture in the western world. Asia has a huge idea that Americans are totally ignorant idiots. At least I hear that a lot in China and here in Taiwan….they also think they are corrupt, all of them. Which is obviously not true. I know plenty of good and honest white folk and plenty of extremely serious white Buddhists. I don’t know anything about this guy, he could be a follower of Buddhism and this is his way of appreciating Buddhism. He could be an idiot who thinks Buddha looks cool on his arm. I doubt he had any knowledge of this being offensive in Sri Lanka though, and if he got the tattoo in Burma, someone would have probably told him if it were offensive before he got it for a pointless reason.
Anyway, all this white bashing…c’mon guys what the hell. I don’t think he is a white dude, coming in the name of the western world, to shit on all of Sri Lanka. If you think he’s being culturally offensive, it’s probably because he’s being an ignorant fool and not a white person. Being a white person does not automatically make you a culturally offensive, oppressive imperialist enforcer. If this was anyone of any other sort of race, there probably wouldn’t be a huge fuss. Yes, some white people think they are entitled, yes some white people think they are better than other races. But guess what, so do people of other races. Just because white people did bad shit in the past does not mean they are all like that now. It should be treated with a case by case approach, just like everything.
Sincerely,
A half white, half asian,
American, Dutch, and Taiwanese national
With a heavily Buddhist influenced background.
Being racist applies to ALL races. Don’t be a dick.

I want to get a laughing buddha now. Just to hurt whiny SJW feewings

>Dude gets Tattoo not knowing it was hurtful to other’s culture>Gets stopped going to country of origin for said culture>Native supporters of culture don’t like tattoo>Guy tries to defend his position >Natives deny his every motive saying it is disrepectful either way >Guy gets hurt>Culture standsI’m just going to say this first. You’re all bunch of racist immature assholes defending nothing. Secondly, respect and embrace the idea of education. Not self righteous hate or insoburdinate hurting of someone who isn’t like you.
This dude got a tattoo of a culture he followed and was very much interested in, but like every human being. He made a mistake. The natives have every right to be offended, but instead of educating him, they just shamed him. This is wrong. Having something that offends a culture without knowledge is a mistake. Not educating someone is wrong. Stop being stuck up bitches. People make mistakes. Now shut up you racists sacks of shit.

"country of origin of said culture"
Way to show your own ignorance on the subject!
Sri Lanka is an island. The Buddha was not born on an island; no one’s entirely sure where he was born, but it was likely in Nepal. A quick Google search reveals that Buddhism originated in the northern part of the Indian subcontinent. If you have something reliable that convincingly demonstrates that the island of Sri Lanka is the geographical origin of Buddhism, please share!
Now, you should note that Buddhism is a religion, not a culture. This man says he was a follower of the religion. He got a tattoo of a figure he looked up to, the founder of his religion. To say that just because he’s white, he can’t be Buddhist, is fucking racist. You may as well say that Koreans can’t be Christian.
If this had been a Korean man getting stopped in Rome for a tattoo of Jesus you cultural appropriation idiots would be on the exact opposite side.

I used culture and country for generlization purposes. I know the story, and I know about budhism rise from nepal and its current struggles and what not. Point I’m trying to argue is that is pisses me off that something as simple as not being educated got turned into a “I hate priviledge white people” and “Down with the SJW” propaganda by tumblr people. It aggravates the shit out of me cuz its racist as shit.

So you admit that you were treating all South Asian peoples (or perhaps all Buddhist peoples?) as one “country” and culture. I’d say “at least you’re being honest” but no, you’re still pretending that’s not ignorant and racist.
Sri Lanka does not own Buddhism, and telling anyone they can’t practice a religion because of their race is hella racist, dude.
I’d love to know how you’d react to a follower of a Korean church being deported from a Christian country for having a tattoo of Jesus. It will tell me if you’re a cultural isolationist or just a regular racist.

It is racist and ignorant. You also missed the point where i said I wasn’t using a specific race or religion or anything for generilization** purposes. Point I tried making was that someone got shamed for something he didn’t know offended someone else, and reading above said comments making fun and hating on other races is racist but they wave under the flag of “Anti SJW” and say it isn’t racist. Everyone in this website is racist. Me included.

But apart from one person saying they’ll get a laughing buddha just to piss off sjws, I don’t see anyone being racist towards Sri Lankans or antagonizing buddhists.  This comment thread features sjws saying “whitey shoulda known that converting to buddhism is racist” and you defending the Sri Lankan government’s “white people can’t be buddhist” policy while also claiming that Sri Lanka is the origin of Buddhism and/or that all South Asian cultures are the same.

Saying that the sri lanka goverment was wrong for shaming the dude. And half of the thread is racist as is.

But you’re also defending the Sri Lankan government’s decision to label this as disrespectful, as if white people can’t be buddhist, by calling his tattoo of the founder of the philosophy he follows “a mistake.”

what fresh fucking hell is this
white britons can be buddhists, but that does not make their opinions about what buddhism is and what is ‘respectful to buddhism’ equal to the opinions of sri lankans who have been practicing buddhism since before the fall of rome and the birth of christ
sri lanka did not create buddhism as a whole, but after two and a half thousand years of continuous practice, they do get to lay claim to //sri lankan buddhism// and set some ground rules //in their own country//
further, i wonder if part of sri lanka’s fundamentalist nationalist opposition to westerners coming in and being real casual about their cultural history is related to the decades long colonial occupation by white britons who tried to stamp out their ancient faith and convert them all to christianity
when white britons show up in their country with a tattoo of the buddha and didn’t even do enough research to know to keep it covered up, that plays into old imperial patterns
when white britons get booted out and cry about how unfair it is that their feelings were disrespected by sri lanka - while missing out that they are being given exactly as much respect and consideration individually //from// sri lanka as they gave collectively //to// their hosts, and i don’t mean historically, i mean it’s nakedly narcissistic to trample all over people’s feelings and then claim //you// are the victim when they get upset - that is real casual imperialisn in the form of ‘my opinion as an individual white man is equal to or greater than //an entire brown country’
you children are hilariously ignorant about history and power dynamics and how colonialism works and also, ironically  //buddhism// and how it manifests culturally all over se asia - you can’t swap the positions in this situation and have parity because a lone white briton in sri lanka has the same imperial cultural weight behind him as all of britain against a lone sri lankan.  buddhism in sri lanka is more like judaism in israel or mormonism in utah.  the actual western monotheistic corollary is if borat went to jerusalem.  also those dutch muhammad cartoons, but white westerners loved them too bc we’ve been exhorted to hate the muslims since 1095.
you kids are also being really embarassingly transparent by leaping to the defense of this one dude’s absolute inviolate freedom as a proxy for //your own//.  you’re so caught up in a white-supremacist imperialist system you can’t even see it

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BBC News - Tourist ‘upset’ at Buddha tattoo row

A British tourist is “shocked and upset” after being deported from Sri Lanka for displaying a Buddha tattoo on his arm, he says.

Antony Ratcliffe, 42, from Nottingham, was turned back at Colombo’s main airport on Friday for allegedly showing a lack of respect for Buddhism.

The authorities are tough on perceived insults to Buddhism - the religion of the island’s majority ethnic Sinhalese.

But Mr Ratcliffe says the “inoffensive” body art was meant as a tribute.

[…]

“They took my passport and held me there for an hour and a half. All the time they were bringing people in to look at my arm, and they were shaking their heads.

“I was explaining my case, pleading basically, and the chief officer just told me to ‘shut up, shut up’ and he refused to talk to me.”

“I like the artwork in tattoos obviously and, due to my belief in Buddhist philosophy which I have followed for many years, I thought a quality tattoo of the Buddha was rather apt.

“It wasn’t something I took lightly or did on the spur of the moment.”

Eventually, Mr Ratcliffe was allowed to continue his journey to Kuala Lumpur, but faced further questioning when he landed.

“The whole experience has been a shock - it has been upsetting and a waste of my time. I’m not taking it further, but when I saw they had accused me of speaking disrespectfully about Buddhism, I had to put my side of the story”, he said.

‘i mean, i still don’t really give a shit whether or not they were offended by my imperialist tattoo, i just can’t decide if i’m more insulted that they wouldn’t let me into their country to ‘appreciate’ the rest of their heritage, or that they think they can tell me what i don’t know about buddhism’.

fucks sake, man.  #whitegirlsinheaddresses

what’s this i hear?

a country of color not taking any shit from a white person who disrespects their cultural and religious heritage?

cue that gif of oprah going “you mad?!” 

fuck your white bullshit

Yes Sri Lanka!

Yessssss I love it

Did you guys read the article?

There are white Buddhists (shocking, I know). He got it in another Buddhist nation. Like every tattoo, there was a story behind it, and his was to tribute to a Buddha.

It’s pretty telling alone that he didn’t get Laughing Buddha, the one most used for parodies and most widely known in white cultures.

But hey, maybe he’s just disrespecting an entire culture.

I fucking hate this. Not everything I do (as a white girl born in the USA or European decent) is disrespecting your culture. Asking you to explain things or spell your name is not stupidity or ignorance - it’s a genuine curiosity about who you are and where you come from. If I decide to tattoo a religious symbol of your culture or dress in clothes inspired by your culture, I’m not ‘appropriating’ your culture for ‘white girl’ purposes. Maybe I believe in the message behind them. Maybe I just think they’re pretty. 

You can wear jeans and printed tees, why can’t I wear a sari? If I respect and connect spiritually with Japanese traditional wedding practices, why can’t I use them? 

Stop assuming that because I’m a privileged white girl, I don’t respect your culture and beliefs. THAT belief makes YOU ignorant. 

Bitch did you not read the fuckin story? When people from the culture say, DON’T DO THAT. THAT IS INSULTING TO MY CULTURE, YOU ARE IN FACT DOING SOMETHING INSULTING TO THE CULTURE…you are not the fucking authority on what is and isn’t insulting to a culture that isn’t yours..and if you’re a decent human being, if you do something painful to someone and they tell you to stop, THEN FUCKING STOP…jesus h christ on a motherfuckin biscuit…what is WRONG with white people?!?!

He totally got that tattoo done after Buddhists told him not to. Definitely. That’s why he got it done in Burma, where the tattoo artist was probably Buddhist himself (as around 90% of the population there is, in fact, Buddhist, from what I can gather). Without knowing the exact story of his tattoo and him, we CANNOT assume that he continued to do something that they asked him not to and told him was disrespectful. If the tattoo artist did not think that it was a mistreatment of the image of the Buddha, I’m gonna go ahead and say that it was probably safe (seeing how, if he had done it and it HAD been a mistreatment, he would have gone to prison, and no one wants to live that far on the edge.). Did YOU not read the story? 

I never claimed to be any authority. I claimed to be judged prematurely based on my alabaster skin and passport. What is insulting to ME is that everyone else is allowed to appropriate western culture, but the second westerners do it, cultural appropriation is the devil. In a nutshell, lets not judge people without having a discussion with them first, okay? 

I mean honestly, completely honestly, I think this comes down to a very philosophical question about respect and majority and blanket statements and there is a lot of reasonable debate to be had, and I would have this cultural appropriate debate with you, I really would, but you don’t seem like you’re someone that reason would effect. At all. You seem kind of like a ragey social justice freak. You’ve completely missed my point and responded irrationally, devolving essentially into childlike name-calling and you seem unwilling to have a discussion about this, instead calling me an entitled white girl and ignoring my opinion.

I’m real tired of white- excuse me- *alabaster* people…calling me a “social justice freak” when they actually just mean scary Black lady…..and imma really need some concrete examples of when and how the appropriation of “western culture” has caused an *ALABASTER* person some real actual physical, mental, or spiritual harm…like when did someone eating velveeta and wearing blue jeans cause cultural exclusion and repression ever? 

Also, FUCK YOU I CAN BE AS RAGEY AS I WANT ESPECIALLY WHEN I SEE YET ANOTHER IGNORANT ASSHOLE DISRESPECT POC, DON’T INVALIDATE MY ANGER….

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Just because western culture has imposed spiritual and cultural oppression in the past, does not mean every white person is out to cause everyone other than them harm. We don’t go and scream at German people about previous being a nazi regime (or at least we shouldn’t) because the people today are not the people back then.

That being said, I agree that we don’t know who this guy is or what his reason for getting the tattoo was. I ALSO agree that Sri Lanka has all the right to get upset about what they think is culturally offensive…however, I can’t ignore the fact that I feel it also has a lot to do with a white man, in Sri Lanka, with an image of Buddha on his arm. Here in Asia it’s not exactly commonplace to see a white Buddhist…only cause there aren’t a lot of white people anyway. There are, also, ignorant white people who don’t know jack about Asian culture and do stupid stuff like wear shirts that have Chinese proverbs or images of Buddha without appreciating it…HOWEVER, I have to say there is just as much cultural ignorance with western culture in Asia as there is ignorance about Asian culture in the western world. Asia has a huge idea that Americans are totally ignorant idiots. At least I hear that a lot in China and here in Taiwan….they also think they are corrupt, all of them. Which is obviously not true. I know plenty of good and honest white folk and plenty of extremely serious white Buddhists. I don’t know anything about this guy, he could be a follower of Buddhism and this is his way of appreciating Buddhism. He could be an idiot who thinks Buddha looks cool on his arm. I doubt he had any knowledge of this being offensive in Sri Lanka though, and if he got the tattoo in Burma, someone would have probably told him if it were offensive before he got it for a pointless reason.

Anyway, all this white bashing…c’mon guys what the hell. I don’t think he is a white dude, coming in the name of the western world, to shit on all of Sri Lanka. If you think he’s being culturally offensive, it’s probably because he’s being an ignorant fool and not a white person. Being a white person does not automatically make you a culturally offensive, oppressive imperialist enforcer. If this was anyone of any other sort of race, there probably wouldn’t be a huge fuss. Yes, some white people think they are entitled, yes some white people think they are better than other races. But guess what, so do people of other races. Just because white people did bad shit in the past does not mean they are all like that now. It should be treated with a case by case approach, just like everything.

Sincerely,

A half white, half asian,

American, Dutch, and Taiwanese national

With a heavily Buddhist influenced background.

Being racist applies to ALL races. Don’t be a dick.

I want to get a laughing buddha now. Just to hurt whiny SJW feewings

>Dude gets Tattoo not knowing it was hurtful to other’s culture
>Gets stopped going to country of origin for said culture
>Native supporters of culture don’t like tattoo
>Guy tries to defend his position
>Natives deny his every motive saying it is disrepectful either way
>Guy gets hurt
>Culture stands
I’m just going to say this first. You’re all bunch of racist immature assholes defending nothing.
Secondly, respect and embrace the idea of education. Not self righteous hate or insoburdinate hurting of someone who isn’t like you.

This dude got a tattoo of a culture he followed and was very much interested in, but like every human being. He made a mistake. The natives have every right to be offended, but instead of educating him, they just shamed him. This is wrong. Having something that offends a culture without knowledge is a mistake. Not educating someone is wrong.
Stop being stuck up bitches. People make mistakes. Now shut up you racists sacks of shit.

"country of origin of said culture"

Way to show your own ignorance on the subject!

Sri Lanka is an island. The Buddha was not born on an island; no one’s entirely sure where he was born, but it was likely in Nepal. A quick Google search reveals that Buddhism originated in the northern part of the Indian subcontinent. If you have something reliable that convincingly demonstrates that the island of Sri Lanka is the geographical origin of Buddhism, please share!

Now, you should note that Buddhism is a religion, not a culture. This man says he was a follower of the religion. He got a tattoo of a figure he looked up to, the founder of his religion. To say that just because he’s white, he can’t be Buddhist, is fucking racist. You may as well say that Koreans can’t be Christian.

If this had been a Korean man getting stopped in Rome for a tattoo of Jesus you cultural appropriation idiots would be on the exact opposite side.

I used culture and country for generlization purposes. I know the story, and I know about budhism rise from nepal and its current struggles and what not.
Point I’m trying to argue is that is pisses me off that something as simple as not being educated got turned into a “I hate priviledge white people” and “Down with the SJW” propaganda by tumblr people.
It aggravates the shit out of me cuz its racist as shit.

So you admit that you were treating all South Asian peoples (or perhaps all Buddhist peoples?) as one “country” and culture. I’d say “at least you’re being honest” but no, you’re still pretending that’s not ignorant and racist.

Sri Lanka does not own Buddhism, and telling anyone they can’t practice a religion because of their race is hella racist, dude.

I’d love to know how you’d react to a follower of a Korean church being deported from a Christian country for having a tattoo of Jesus. It will tell me if you’re a cultural isolationist or just a regular racist.

It is racist and ignorant. You also missed the point where i said I wasn’t using a specific race or religion or anything for generilization** purposes.
Point I tried making was that someone got shamed for something he didn’t know offended someone else, and reading above said comments making fun and hating on other races is racist but they wave under the flag of “Anti SJW” and say it isn’t racist.
Everyone in this website is racist. Me included.

But apart from one person saying they’ll get a laughing buddha just to piss off sjws, I don’t see anyone being racist towards Sri Lankans or antagonizing buddhists.  This comment thread features sjws saying “whitey shoulda known that converting to buddhism is racist” and you defending the Sri Lankan government’s “white people can’t be buddhist” policy while also claiming that Sri Lanka is the origin of Buddhism and/or that all South Asian cultures are the same.

Saying that the sri lanka goverment was wrong for shaming the dude.
And half of the thread is racist as is.

But you’re also defending the Sri Lankan government’s decision to label this as disrespectful, as if white people can’t be buddhist, by calling his tattoo of the founder of the philosophy he follows “a mistake.”

what fresh fucking hell is this

white britons can be buddhists, but that does not make their opinions about what buddhism is and what is ‘respectful to buddhism’ equal to the opinions of sri lankans who have been practicing buddhism since before the fall of rome and the birth of christ

sri lanka did not create buddhism as a whole, but after two and a half thousand years of continuous practice, they do get to lay claim to //sri lankan buddhism// and set some ground rules //in their own country//

further, i wonder if part of sri lanka’s fundamentalist nationalist opposition to westerners coming in and being real casual about their cultural history is related to the decades long colonial occupation by white britons who tried to stamp out their ancient faith and convert them all to christianity

when white britons show up in their country with a tattoo of the buddha and didn’t even do enough research to know to keep it covered up, that plays into old imperial patterns

when white britons get booted out and cry about how unfair it is that their feelings were disrespected by sri lanka - while missing out that they are being given exactly as much respect and consideration individually //from// sri lanka as they gave collectively //to// their hosts, and i don’t mean historically, i mean it’s nakedly narcissistic to trample all over people’s feelings and then claim //you// are the victim when they get upset - that is real casual imperialisn in the form of ‘my opinion as an individual white man is equal to or greater than //an entire brown country’

you children are hilariously ignorant about history and power dynamics and how colonialism works and also, ironically //buddhism// and how it manifests culturally all over se asia - you can’t swap the positions in this situation and have parity because a lone white briton in sri lanka has the same imperial cultural weight behind him as all of britain against a lone sri lankan. buddhism in sri lanka is more like judaism in israel or mormonism in utah. the actual western monotheistic corollary is if borat went to jerusalem. also those dutch muhammad cartoons, but white westerners loved them too bc we’ve been exhorted to hate the muslims since 1095.

you kids are also being really embarassingly transparent by leaping to the defense of this one dude’s absolute inviolate freedom as a proxy for //your own//. you’re so caught up in a white-supremacist imperialist system you can’t even see it

flightcub:

totalitarian dystopian future lit is like “what if the government got so powerful that all the bad stuff that’s already happening ALSO HAPPENED TO WHITE PEOPLE?”

i literally don’t have the patience to dive into the fray again rn but a bunch of children reblogged that buddha tattoo bit all ‘man sri lanka doesn’t own buddhism, it’s not even //from// there’

like, first of all, DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHERE SRI LANKA IS

second, you are correct, buddhism came to sri lanka a scant //more than two thousand literal years ago//, literally buddhism in sri lanks predates christianity but yeah, some random white dude gets equal claim to access

for three, up until 1948 sri lanka was called british ceylon and the british christians were actively trying to convert all the buddhists, huh i wonder if that plays into this at all

dude is free to be a buddhist but HE DOES NOT GET TO BE THE FUCKING POPE, he does not have veto power, his word cannot carry more weight than //all the buddhists in sri lanka, yes even including the sinhalese nationalists//

my god you ignorant fucks, this story IS NOT ABOUT REVERSE RACISM, it is about straight up normal //forward racism// by this white dude against an entire brown country

IT IS NOT ABOUT FUCKING //YOU//

GET WHATEVER SHITTY APPROPRIATIVE TATTOO YOU WANT

BECOMING A BUDDHIST DOESN’T MAKE YOU CHAIRMAN OF THE FUCKING BOARD

OR A GOOD PERSON

caligulasterrarium:

more-guy-fieri-less-whining:

ultralaser:

BBC News - Tourist ‘upset’ at Buddha tattoo row

A British tourist is “shocked and upset” after being deported from Sri Lanka for displaying a Buddha tattoo on his arm, he says.
Antony Ratcliffe, 42, from Nottingham, was turned back at Colombo’s main airport on Friday for allegedly showing a lack of respect for Buddhism.
The authorities are tough on perceived insults to Buddhism - the religion of the island’s majority ethnic Sinhalese.
But Mr Ratcliffe says the “inoffensive” body art was meant as a tribute.
[…]
"They took my passport and held me there for an hour and a half. All the time they were bringing people in to look at my arm, and they were shaking their heads.
"I was explaining my case, pleading basically, and the chief officer just told me to ‘shut up, shut up’ and he refused to talk to me."
"I like the artwork in tattoos obviously and, due to my belief in Buddhist philosophy which I have followed for many years, I thought a quality tattoo of the Buddha was rather apt.
"It wasn’t something I took lightly or did on the spur of the moment."
Eventually, Mr Ratcliffe was allowed to continue his journey to Kuala Lumpur, but faced further questioning when he landed.
"The whole experience has been a shock - it has been upsetting and a waste of my time. I’m not taking it further, but when I saw they had accused me of speaking disrespectfully about Buddhism, I had to put my side of the story", he said.

'i mean, i still don't really give a shit whether or not they were offended by my imperialist tattoo, i just can't decide if i'm more insulted that they wouldn't let me into their country to 'appreciate' the rest of their heritage, or that they think they can tell me what i don't know about buddhism'.
fucks sake, man.  #whitegirlsinheaddresses

You’re a fucking idiot. FYI Buddhists in Sri Lanka have a reputation for being bigoted and intolerant towards others btw. Weird right, non-white, non-christians can be awful people too. Wouldn’t expect some infantile liberal dipshit like yourself to realize that though.

Good link.

Nationalist Buddhist groups say their mission is to ”save the Sinhala race,” which makes up 74 per cent of the population. In recent years, nationalist groups such as Bodu Bala Sena (BBS) and Ravana Balaya have campaigned against religious minorities in Sri Lanka. They say they are non-violent, yet minorities accuse them of attacking mosques and Christian churches and prayer centres

It sure is strange how non-white nationalist groups have a lot in common with white nationalist groups. It’s almost as if racists are racists no matter what color they are. Crazy thought, right?

man it’s been a full fucking year and motherfuckers are still jumping on this all BUT WHAT ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE THO
doing fucking parkour and shit to not even be able to //see// british dude’s real casual ethnocentrism, bc acknowledging this dude’s pedestal would mean acknowleding that they’re only mad by proxy, all ‘but if //this// white dude can be held accountable for his bullshit then maybe I CAN TOO OH NOOOOOO’
this was the post where i gave up on constructive dialogue as a way to change minds, plural - after i patiently re-explained the point i’d made satirically //right up front// for literally the fiftieth time, i realized that none of the people who got it had reblogged my further commentary - it was just a vicious cycle of angry narcisstic projection followed by embarassed radio silence, and here’s me essentially telling the same story to myself over and over again
i can’t imagine how actual poc talking about racism do it, i have so much respect for everyone who doesn’t just scream at all of us continuously, because what a soul-numbing waste of everybody’s time
anyways, for literally the fifty-first time, bodu bala sena and sinhalese nationalism does not not not excuse this dude’s proclamation that he as a white englishman gets veto power over //all of sri lanka// when deciding what is and isn’t ‘respectful to buddhism’
bringing up sri lanka’s extremely public history of hardline stances against western tourists actually just makes it that much more obvious that dude knew fuck all about the places he was visiting, or he’d have had the foresight to weae //a long sleeve fucking shirt// and save them the trouble of wasting his very important time.

caligulasterrarium:

more-guy-fieri-less-whining:

ultralaser:

BBC News - Tourist ‘upset’ at Buddha tattoo row

A British tourist is “shocked and upset” after being deported from Sri Lanka for displaying a Buddha tattoo on his arm, he says.

Antony Ratcliffe, 42, from Nottingham, was turned back at Colombo’s main airport on Friday for allegedly showing a lack of respect for Buddhism.

The authorities are tough on perceived insults to Buddhism - the religion of the island’s majority ethnic Sinhalese.

But Mr Ratcliffe says the “inoffensive” body art was meant as a tribute.

[…]

"They took my passport and held me there for an hour and a half. All the time they were bringing people in to look at my arm, and they were shaking their heads.

"I was explaining my case, pleading basically, and the chief officer just told me to ‘shut up, shut up’ and he refused to talk to me."

"I like the artwork in tattoos obviously and, due to my belief in Buddhist philosophy which I have followed for many years, I thought a quality tattoo of the Buddha was rather apt.

"It wasn’t something I took lightly or did on the spur of the moment."

Eventually, Mr Ratcliffe was allowed to continue his journey to Kuala Lumpur, but faced further questioning when he landed.

"The whole experience has been a shock - it has been upsetting and a waste of my time. I’m not taking it further, but when I saw they had accused me of speaking disrespectfully about Buddhism, I had to put my side of the story", he said.

'i mean, i still don't really give a shit whether or not they were offended by my imperialist tattoo, i just can't decide if i'm more insulted that they wouldn't let me into their country to 'appreciate' the rest of their heritage, or that they think they can tell me what i don't know about buddhism'.

fucks sake, man.  #whitegirlsinheaddresses

You’re a fucking idiot. FYI Buddhists in Sri Lanka have a reputation for being bigoted and intolerant towards others btw. Weird right, non-white, non-christians can be awful people too. Wouldn’t expect some infantile liberal dipshit like yourself to realize that though.


Good link.

Nationalist Buddhist groups say their mission is to ”save the Sinhala race,” which makes up 74 per cent of the population. In recent years, nationalist groups such as Bodu Bala Sena (BBS) and Ravana Balaya have campaigned against religious minorities in Sri Lanka. They say they are non-violent, yet minorities accuse them of attacking mosques and Christian churches and prayer centres

It sure is strange how non-white nationalist groups have a lot in common with white nationalist groups. It’s almost as if racists are racists no matter what color they are. Crazy thought, right?

man it’s been a full fucking year and motherfuckers are still jumping on this all BUT WHAT ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE THO

doing fucking parkour and shit to not even be able to //see// british dude’s real casual ethnocentrism, bc acknowledging this dude’s pedestal would mean acknowleding that they’re only mad by proxy, all ‘but if //this// white dude can be held accountable for his bullshit then maybe I CAN TOO OH NOOOOOO’

this was the post where i gave up on constructive dialogue as a way to change minds, plural - after i patiently re-explained the point i’d made satirically //right up front// for literally the fiftieth time, i realized that none of the people who got it had reblogged my further commentary - it was just a vicious cycle of angry narcisstic projection followed by embarassed radio silence, and here’s me essentially telling the same story to myself over and over again

i can’t imagine how actual poc talking about racism do it, i have so much respect for everyone who doesn’t just scream at all of us continuously, because what a soul-numbing waste of everybody’s time

anyways, for literally the fifty-first time, bodu bala sena and sinhalese nationalism does not not not excuse this dude’s proclamation that he as a white englishman gets veto power over //all of sri lanka// when deciding what is and isn’t ‘respectful to buddhism’

bringing up sri lanka’s extremely public history of hardline stances against western tourists actually just makes it that much more obvious that dude knew fuck all about the places he was visiting, or he’d have had the foresight to weae //a long sleeve fucking shirt// and save them the trouble of wasting his very important time.

ultralaser:


good tips on drawing diaphenous greek dresses from this two and a half thousand year old cup
also holy shit the extent to which the book is straight casual ‘well yes the greeks had basically ridiculous numbers of slaves but all that slave labor allowed the male elite to literally invent democracy so it’s a wash’ was so awful my prof called it out in class and elaborated - as he does a lot actually - on how crap it was for most people and especially women.
classical athens was straight up bullshit, literal antebellum level slavery mixed with post-persian war taxes on the delian league funding the athenian renaissance, like they literally built the parthenon with money extorted from their war allies, the peloponnese war was sparta - //sparta// - saying ‘yo athens you’re being dicks’


haha i forgot about this, fuck an athens

ultralaser:

good tips on drawing diaphenous greek dresses from this two and a half thousand year old cup

also holy shit the extent to which the book is straight casual ‘well yes the greeks had basically ridiculous numbers of slaves but all that slave labor allowed the male elite to literally invent democracy so it’s a wash’ was so awful my prof called it out in class and elaborated - as he does a lot actually - on how crap it was for most people and especially women.

classical athens was straight up bullshit, literal antebellum level slavery mixed with post-persian war taxes on the delian league funding the athenian renaissance, like they literally built the parthenon with money extorted from their war allies, the peloponnese war was sparta - //sparta// - saying ‘yo athens you’re being dicks’

haha i forgot about this, fuck an athens

seppin:


An Iranian channel ran a story about how a certain kind of martial arts is enjoying increasing popularity among Iranian women. This means that a) Iranian women have rights, b) Iranian women can access the public sphere, c) Iranian women participate in organized, public sports, and d) an Iranian government news channel has no problem with any of this.
Faced with these facts, the Western media panicked: some news agencies resorted to the stereotype of Iranian women as veiled, militant fanatics; others opted for infantilizing portrayals of suffering women using martial arts as their only escape. Can you imagine any self-respecting Western reporter writing a story that explained, unprovoked, the popularity of karate among girls in suburban Los Angeles by citing America’s high rates of sexual assault? Additionally, few bothered to mention that recently it has been Western sports organizations that have prevented Iranian women from playing, for example in 2011 forcing the Iranian women’s soccer team to forfeit hope of reaching the Olympics because they wore sports hijabs on the field.
Narratives of weak or militant Iranian women are not just dishonest; they also fuel a political narrative whereby Islamism is equated with backwardness and the ability of women to reconcile Islamic ideals with feminist goals is entirely obfuscated. Both Western conservatives and many secular feminists often participate in this obfuscation, effectively trying to either hide Iranian women’s successes in order to demonize Iran or by ignoring the ideologies of liberation they have formulated in order to preserve the status of secular feminism as the only path to women’s liberation.

Read the entire article. You can follow ajammc on tumblr here. 

seppin:

An Iranian channel ran a story about how a certain kind of martial arts is enjoying increasing popularity among Iranian women. This means that a) Iranian women have rights, b) Iranian women can access the public sphere, c) Iranian women participate in organized, public sports, and d) an Iranian government news channel has no problem with any of this.

Faced with these facts, the Western media panicked: some news agencies resorted to the stereotype of Iranian women as veiled, militant fanatics; others opted for infantilizing portrayals of suffering women using martial arts as their only escape. Can you imagine any self-respecting Western reporter writing a story that explained, unprovoked, the popularity of karate among girls in suburban Los Angeles by citing America’s high rates of sexual assault? Additionally, few bothered to mention that recently it has been Western sports organizations that have prevented Iranian women from playing, for example in 2011 forcing the Iranian women’s soccer team to forfeit hope of reaching the Olympics because they wore sports hijabs on the field.

Narratives of weak or militant Iranian women are not just dishonest; they also fuel a political narrative whereby Islamism is equated with backwardness and the ability of women to reconcile Islamic ideals with feminist goals is entirely obfuscated. Both Western conservatives and many secular feminists often participate in this obfuscation, effectively trying to either hide Iranian women’s successes in order to demonize Iran or by ignoring the ideologies of liberation they have formulated in order to preserve the status of secular feminism as the only path to women’s liberation.

Read the entire article. You can follow ajammc on tumblr here

asks:
All these arguments white people make love to disregard the racism of the past saying they aren't responsible for their ancestors actions...but i see them love to speak up when theres something to take credit for. Sorry guys, its a package deal!

unapologetically-indie:

gravityrushhome:

unapologetically-indie:

gravityrushhome:

unapologetically-indie:

gravityrushhome:

whiteguiltconfessionals:

Exactly. It’s pretty ridiculous how short-sighted some people can be.

—Tera


Sorry but that those for ALL RACES not just yours. So you don’t get some special “sympathy” card.

I have never said that other races have nothing to be “proud” of. only that its hypocritical that ya’ll are allowed to have “pride” yet if you’re white - Nope. Not allowed, and if you are “proud” and open about it , you’re automatically labeled a racist.

I think it’s because of the Ku Klux Klan. They showed white pride through intimidation and hate, burning crosses in people’s homes, lynching people, etc.

Even if that is the case, why should we all be held accountable for one group of people’s actions? is that not the same thing as saying “oh well that gang over there, they’re all made up of black people, so obviously all black people are gang bangers.”

it’s generalizing.

I honestly don’t know. Pure ignorance and finding people to blame maybe?

So you see why it bothers me so much? You can have it one way and not the other. Either all races, and I mean ALL of them, get to have “pride” or none of them do.

okay but it bothers you because //you’re// the one being a giant hypocrite.

for one, you are literally making the op’s point by soapboxing about how //unfair// it is that you can’t simultaneously take non-specific blanket ‘pride’ in whiteness, while also shrugging off very particular portions of //accountability// for those swaths of white history you personally choose not to identify with. you don’t get to say ‘i’m proud to be white!’ and then also say that it is everyone else’s responsibility to work out whether you are a brooklyn hipster or an illinois nazi - especially when you sound more like the white supremacist than the colorblind teenager who doesn’t understand how racism actually works - and //also// say that if you can’t have something, then NO ONE CAN.

for two you are critically in error when you conflate white pride and black pride as structurally or historically equivalent. there are power dynamics still in play that you are ignoring, specifically that black pride et al were explicitly set up //in opposition to white supremacy//. they are resistance movements against the dominant ideology of generic, universal, uncritical, and non-specific ‘white pride’. and until white supremacy has been overthrown as the dominant ideology in this country slash world, then white pride will continue to prop up white supremacy as a paradigm by playing into it’s core tenets - that white people are //better// than everyone else - whereas black pride and black power, and any and all other minority solidarity movements, existentially //challenge// white supremacy by saying ‘no you are not’.

and for three, you are being embarassingly ignorant about how those parts of whiteness you don’t want to be held accountable for have historically and still today //give you an unfair advantage over everyone else// simply because of the color of your skin. challenging white supremacy as an ideology takes more than saying ‘i personally reject white supremacy’ and then going on as usual in a position of inherent privilege. and it takes a //hell// of a lot more than saying ‘i’m proud of my whiteness’ and only appending ‘except that part’ when someone gets upset. you don’t get to say things that are indistinguishable from ‘i love the systemic cultural and material advantages i get just bc i am white’ and then get mad when people point out that that sounds racist - and then call //them// racist and whine about how you’ve been left out of their resistance movement.

Anonymous
asks:
Yo, how fucked up is it that white Christians can be all like "I'm a sinner because the very first human being in recorded history ate some bad fruit", but when you bring up slavery they're like "OMG THAT WAS SO LONG AGO I NEVER OWNED SLAVES DON'T BLAME ME FOR IT"

yoisthisracist:

Almost like those motherfuckers are a buncha idiots tho.

Only American audiences ask me, “What should I do?” I’m never asked this in third world. When you go to Turkey or Colombia or Brazil, they don’t ask you, “What should I do?” They tell you what they’re doing… These are poor, oppressed people, living under horrendous condition, and they would never dream of asking you what they should do. It’s only in high privileged cultures like ours that people ask this question… We can do anything. But people here are trained to believe that there are easy answers, and it doesn’t work that way. If you want to do something, you have to be dedicated and committed to it day after day. Educational programs, organizing, activism. That’s the way things change. You want a magic key, so you can go back to watching television tomorrow? It doesn’t exist.
Noam Chomsky, Imperial Ambitions, p. 39-40  (via thenegrotude)

untouchmyhair:

lilputa:

eastafriqueen:

cozyqueen:

allblackerrrythang:

butthurt white people

I love how they rlly hate to see someone doing better than them & then put it off on race like if a white dude had the same achievements no one would be doing anything but sucking his dick and patting him on the back like this is some top tier hater shit & it’s so funny

White people love to bring up affirmative action as if their entire lives aren’t a fucking breeze

They’re acting like this kid didn’t put in work to get where he is though. They literally think it was handed to him because he’s black???? Yeah that’s definitely how America works

they’re so mad

i’m on my phone so i’d have to open this in a new tab to read what they said, but i saved myself some time by getting mad the moment i saw there were more images

asks:
White privilege is when the govt. sought out and murdered leaders of the BPP ultimately leading to the destruction of the real party and it's core values. But the KKK is alive and well today with the same damn message. When is the govt gonna take them out?

whitepeoplesaidwhat:

asks:
I'm African American myself. I have a Q about skin color. Up until what point were blacks treated pretty badly due to the color of their skin? I mean was it REALLY as recent as the whole European salve route? For example did any of these medieval people of color here face prejudices against them simply for the color of their skin ..or back then were blacks TRULY no different than a white person in terms of skin color? I hope to learn a lot more here but I've always wondered this in particular.

medievalpoc:

I *think* I understand what you’re trying to ask me, and there’s a lot of writing on this topic. The best and most accurate answer I can give is: it wasn’t anything like the way it is today. Also, it’s not like there’s a consensus on that, other than what I just said. Some people believe that there were forms of prejudice or “proto-racism” against Black people in Medieval and even Ancient Europe.  Part of the problem with really selling that as well as the problem with answering your question is that the idea of “white people” didn’t exist.

You can’t homogenize every society in a continent over the course of thousands of years like that and make some kind of definitive judgement one way or the other. It’s all a LOT more complex than most people are led to believe. Like, it would take en entire class to really get into it (link is to a syllabus with book list).

Although if your question is “were Black people seen as no different than white people”, the answer is no. Ancient and Medieval people had eyes and saw what people looked like, the degree to which they saw them as “different” and what ideas they associated with them varied greatly. The reasons that European artists included them in their work vary just as greatly.

One of the challenges of history is that we’re really just interpreting evidence and documentation, which is contingent on that evidence surviving. Once you get to say, the Tudor era in England, better documentation plus artwork begins to surface. There’s a good article/book review here on Onyeka Nubia’s Blackamoores: Africans in Tudor England here, to give an overview, and I’ve written here before on how Elizabeth I tried more than once to have all the Black British deported, and how and why that failed.

As for Ancient European civilizations, there have been plenty of people who’ve written about their ideas on ethnicity and how that did or didn’t relate to personality traits and a bunch of other stuff. I’ve tried to concentrate on how this information as it comes to us has been filtered through centuries of prejudice and isn’t as reliable as we would like to think.

For further exploration, here is a sample chapter you can read of Benjamin Isaac’s The Invention of Racism in Classical Antiquity, which as the author openly admits doesn’t analyze the arts or visual works as he is not qualified to do so, so you’re relying more heavily on tests and translations. Another problem is that the book explores feelings of possible prejudice in Classical works of literature, NOT evidence of systematic bias, which undermines its purpose and effectiveness in my humble opinion:

This study considers how Greeks and Romans thought and wrote about others, more than how they actually behaved towards them, although clearly there is a connection between the two. If we interpret them properly, we can understand what ancient authors meant to convey or conveyed, sometimes without meaning to do so, about other peoples and about foreigners living in their midst.

It does not follow that we can deduce from their writings how the Greeks and Romans treated them in practice in day-to-day life. There are several reasons for this. First, and most obviously, the authors are all men belonging to the well-to-do or upper classes, which gives them a specific perspective. Second, it is not their ambition to provide us with insights on how the others saw their position vis-à-vis the Greeks and Romans.This book, therefore, aims in particular to elucidate the views encountered in Greek and Roman literature.

Like I’ve said previously , the lack of interdisciplinary work combined with the lack of accessibility in the writing on these topics in a pretty steep hurdle when it comes to reaching anything resembling a consensus on it. 

My point is that it’s important to approach each work with an understanding towards its particular context (for what discipline, for what academic journal) as well as its particular bias (who is the author, why are they writing, who is their audience).

Further reading:

elindigenazi:

ralphieisadreamer:

snarkbender:

sofriel:

setfabulazerstomaximumcaptain:

gadaboutgreen:

did-you-kno:

Source

Uh duh.

What was that?
POCS were thriving and had expansive civilizations BEFORE white people came,colonized everything, and “discovered them”?
Oh…

Go read the source article. And if you haven’t, go read “1491” by Charles Mann. Indigenous people in the Amazon actually found a way to farm that instead of wearing out the soil, actually IMPROVED it with extensive farming. It’s called terra preta and no one has been able to replicate it (not even living indigenous people), and if it were to become replicable it could have enormous impact on agriculture worldwide. #indigenoustechftw
Charles Mann states that for a long time (and still today) outsiders have thought of Amazonian Indian people as “remnants” of the most “primitive” state of humanity, when in fact evidence increasingly points to the idea that modern Amazonian indigenous ways of life are the result of massive upheaval in the face colonizing disease, warfare, land theft, and general genocide. That, effectively, modern Amazonian indigenous people are living in the aftermath of what probably looked a lot like an apocalypse to them.
Which, well, no duh. 

are you sure it wasn’t some alien technology that let them farm sustainably before the White Men came & showed them how to civilised?

White people theworld didnt start with your invasion

I also read that the Amazon is just a giant garden. In other words, IT’S MAN MADE!!!! THE PEOPLE CREATED A STABLE ECOSYSTEM!!!! THEY WERE FUCKING GENIUSES. Read it here and here. 

elindigenazi:

ralphieisadreamer:

snarkbender:

sofriel:

setfabulazerstomaximumcaptain:

gadaboutgreen:

did-you-kno:

Source

Uh duh.

What was that?

POCS were thriving and had expansive civilizations BEFORE white people came,colonized everything, and “discovered them”?

Oh…

Go read the source article. And if you haven’t, go read “1491” by Charles Mann. Indigenous people in the Amazon actually found a way to farm that instead of wearing out the soil, actually IMPROVED it with extensive farming. It’s called terra preta and no one has been able to replicate it (not even living indigenous people), and if it were to become replicable it could have enormous impact on agriculture worldwide. #indigenoustechftw

Charles Mann states that for a long time (and still today) outsiders have thought of Amazonian Indian people as “remnants” of the most “primitive” state of humanity, when in fact evidence increasingly points to the idea that modern Amazonian indigenous ways of life are the result of massive upheaval in the face colonizing disease, warfare, land theft, and general genocide. That, effectively, modern Amazonian indigenous people are living in the aftermath of what probably looked a lot like an apocalypse to them.

Which, well, no duh. 

are you sure it wasn’t some alien technology that let them farm sustainably before the White Men came & showed them how to civilised?

White people theworld didnt start with your invasion

I also read that the Amazon is just a giant garden. In other words, IT’S MAN MADE!!!! THE PEOPLE CREATED A STABLE ECOSYSTEM!!!! THEY WERE FUCKING GENIUSES. Read it here and here